| I would like to raise a question: Is Rejuvenation | | | | experiments that confirm the theory, at least |
| possible and how to approach it? This is just my own | | | | partially. Many big trials and experiments are published |
| opinion about possible procedures. I used certain | | | | in leading journals - Science, Nature, PNAS, New |
| techniques based on a theory. As strange as it | | | | England JM, JAMA, etc.One bias for caloric restriction |
| sounds some of those techniques and procedures | | | | experiment in my opinion is following. Rats live in cage |
| might actually worked.There are several hundreds | | | | 30cmX60cm for their whole life. There are at least |
| theories of aging. New and old ones. Different | | | | five rats or 20 mice. They live couple years and die. |
| authors classify them differently.I would divide all | | | | During the experiments they are celebrities when |
| those theories into 2 groups :1. Theories of | | | | they live 5 years - some lucky ones. The Food is a |
| Deterioration from external cause. "Wear and tear". | | | | balanced mixture of nutrition. Caloric restriction is - |
| Theory of free radicals damage is most fashionable | | | | 60% of their regular meal. They practically don't |
| at present time. Antioxidants are considered a cure. | | | | move - there is no space in cage. Mostly they sleep |
| Benefits of caloric restriction are often explained by | | | | whole day. Sometime they fight and mate. They live |
| that theory. The theory has good objective support | | | | in those conditions at Yale, at Med U of South |
| in scientific literature. Other theories of this group | | | | Carolina, at Russian State Medical University and I |
| included changes of bacteria in the gut, radiation and | | | | think everywhere else. To compare our fellow |
| accumulation of mutations during life of an individual, | | | | humans we would place 10 people on area of 20 |
| etc. - many more of those theories were discussed | | | | square metres (200 sq. feet) for 50 years in a row, |
| in the XX century. 2. Internal clock - theories.I would | | | | feeding them with what they want but all the same - |
| divide the "internal clock" theories into 2 more | | | | let say junk food from McDonalds.I remember my |
| subgroups: 1. Internal clock on the level of cell. | | | | cat (who was partially wild) stole meat and ate until it |
| Telomeres shortening is the most discussed in | | | | started to vomit. He repeated it many times when |
| literature at present. 2. Internal clock on the level of | | | | he was able to steal some steak or whatever. The |
| organism. Growth hormone changes was a recent | | | | same happens in wild - lions have maybe one |
| example of discussion.Authors are usually very | | | | successful hunt out of ten. When they catch a prey, |
| cautious and objective in scientific literature. | | | | they eat like crazy. Much more than they can digest |
| Telomeres are usually discussed in connection with | | | | at the moment. So it looks like there is an instinct. |
| "immortal" cancer cells. Caloric restriction is discussed | | | | Eat as much as possible. This is not a joke - 60% of |
| as a mean of longevity (not rejuvenation per se). | | | | people in western countries are overweight. |
| Level of growth hormone (GH) or insulin-like growth | | | | Abundant high calorie food and lack of activity. It |
| factor drops in aged persons.Mass media speculates | | | | does not seem that for these people any internal |
| wider: telomeres restoration - possible immortal life, | | | | mechanism restricts food consumption. Applying this |
| growth hormone will rejuvenate you, etc.Original | | | | back to rats, we can see that what is considered |
| scientific studies usually do not speculate about this. | | | | normal consumption - "ad lib" - maybe actually big |
| In no way for example drop of GH level in elderly | | | | overfeeding of the animals in these cages.In this case |
| means that just giving it back will make you young | | | | 60% of caloric restriction would be just what rats |
| again.Scientific literature rarely discuss "Rejuvenation" | | | | need, just what the calories they spend in lazy, |
| as it is. Authors mostly talk about "longevity". This is | | | | uneventful daily life. So called "control", "normal" rats - |
| very different story. Longevity in a wheelchair is very | | | | that fed as they usually fed might be compared for |
| distinct from a youth playing soccer. One proven | | | | fat overweight humans. They consume junk food. |
| method to reach longevity is caloric restriction. Often | | | | They prone to the bunch of diseases of obesity and |
| they say it is the only proven technique. Using | | | | low activity. Heart diseases, strokes, variety of |
| antioxidants as a method to prolong life is in the | | | | cancers, arthritis, etc.In this case all the hype about |
| same category. To put simple, the Theory says: | | | | caloric restriction would just be brought to the |
| nutrition produce products of oxidation - peroxides, | | | | business of mere balancing diet and activity in so |
| etc. These products damage DNA, proteins, etc. Cell | | | | called "calorie-restricted animals". I haven't seen any |
| ages. Caloric restriction switches metabolic pathways. | | | | discussion of this problem. I might be wrong. This is |
| There are less free radicals. Hence longevity. | | | | why I use caloric restriction for myself. I did not |
| Antioxidants work in similar way - they remove free | | | | work with worms and spiders. But my guess would |
| radicals. Another speculation is that caloric restriction | | | | be that they all are also in artificial standardized |
| starting at young age delays reproductive age in | | | | conditions. "Control" worms might be also overfed. To |
| animals and this slows down biological clocks and | | | | put rats into bigger cages (to increase activity in |
| prolongs life until an environment with high nutrition | | | | control group and balance calories and catabolism) |
| supply is found. Animals look small and | | | | would be incredibly expensive.Even at present |
| undeveloped.Caloric restriction significantly | | | | conditions because of "animal lovers" and bunch of |
| (25%-100% and more) prolonged life in worms, flies, | | | | other regulations and considerations (e.g. sterile |
| spiders, rats, mice, etc. Experiments on monkeys and | | | | conditions), the price of animal housing is sky-high.You |
| humans are under way and will take decades.Well, it | | | | would say animals in wild would live longer because |
| is all good in experiments and theories. Some argue: | | | | they balance activity and consumption. Well, recently |
| why in this case prisoners of concentration camps do | | | | I read that life span of animals in wild is shorter than |
| not live longer. Another example came from | | | | animals in captivity. Correct me if I am wrong: pandas |
| "Scientific American" - a person had caloric restriction | | | | live 15-20 years in nature and 20-30 in zoos, bears |
| of something 20 years or more - no effect - he just | | | | 20-25 in nature and 30-40 in captivity. Civilization has |
| looks like very thin undernourished person of 50 | | | | certain benefits - vaccinations, good medical care, |
| years. Examples of opposite opinion also exist (tribes | | | | more or less good hygiene. So just moving into wild |
| or groups with low food consumption or high | | | | conditions wouldn't make you younger or allow to live |
| antioxidants consumption have more centenarians | | | | longer.Now, to discuss rejuvenation procedures, I |
| than general population). Maybe you really need to | | | | would need to talk about aging first. In this case |
| start at 10 years of age, look malnourished and weak | | | | Rejuvenation could be considered as reversal of aging |
| for the whole life and live to 100 years, getting to | | | | (deterioration). Longevity is different story - it is |
| your puberty at 25. Antioxidants also bring many | | | | prolonged life span. Rejuvenation supposedly should |
| controversy. Vitamin E did not show many benefits | | | | lead to longevity. But longevity is not equal to |
| though it was a big hope for prevention of many | | | | Rejuvenation. Aging leads to Death eventually. It is |
| diseases of old age. And so on. Today there are big | | | | easier to discuss from that end.All written here is just |
| trials that disprove the theory. Tomorrow - great | | | | plain speculation, take it with a grain of salt. |